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A HELP prize giving with Guest of Honour Yvonne Murray

Almost everyone involved in athletics in any serious way takes on other tasks away from the training track and the racing programme.   There is almost always an overlap with club committees and even at times with District Committees, and in exceptional cases goes further yet and into national and international involvement.    Haddington East Lothian Pacemakers (HELP) was formed by a group of runners in 1983 as a result of people watching the first London Marathon in 1981.  Founding member, Henry Muchamore is the man the old brigade have a lot to thank for. Henry was the main driving force, pushing the club forward in establishing a very well respected, competitive club. The peak years of the club were from about the mid 80’s to late 90’s. It had athletes winning road, hill and cross-country races.     One of the club’s early aims was to raise money for charities and they raised a lot when they did a ‘Run the World Relay’ round the boundary of the town, they raised money from all sorts of local sources.    Tens of thousands of pounds were raised by the club.

Of the charity work, Denis himself says “I managed personal charity contributions too…my co-workers at Brunton’s Musselburgh were so generous on at least 2 occasions, and I think I got another two ‘personally collected’ amounts from families and friends etc. For doing my marathons especially….our HELP acronym was most certainly rooted so generously in trying to support and help charitable causes.”     Denis’s charity efforts did not stop there however. and among the more notable were the following: 

•  He also did an abseil from Glasgow University Tower when working with Keystone Valves for the Macmillan Cancer Fund.   
• He did the Corryairack Challenged from Fort Augustus to Kincraig for the Badaguish Respite Centre, near Coylumbridge.   This was a duathlon running 17 miles to Garbh Bridge and then cycling a further 10 miles to Kincraig.   
• Denis was also part of a 10 man team with a support group of three ‘whusketeers’ that did the JOGLE (John o’Groats to Lands End) on their cycles just 7 years ago in eight and a half days to raise funds for Stem Cell research.

Henry was the club’s first Chairman, and when Denis and some other talented runners joined the club they added even more enthusiasm.    It is always important when setting up a new club to draw up a Constitution right at the beginning  and Denis played a big part in that.   A real livewire within the club,   he was said to be involved in everything: for instance, the club had a magazine called ‘The Chaser’ and Denis wrote reports on several issues including reports on hill running.   When Henry stepped down as Chairman, he tells me that Denis took over.   In about 1986 the club organised the ‘Haddington 5’ Miles  in June.   It subsequently organised the half marathon in June which in turn was followed by the ‘Haddington 10’ miles for August.   Henry Muchamore tells us that Denis was very important in setting these races up, maybe especially the 10 miles,  and filled many posts in the organisation.     He was the club’s first Scottish international when he represented the country in hill running doing the Snowdonia Mountain Race and was made a life member.   The photograph below shows Denis receiving a trophy (for something!) at a HELP Presentation.

Having started as a club committee member, he had held just about every office – from Chairman to Club Captain – and discovered that he enjoyed the experience, and it was natural that he should continue to be involved when he moved to Torrance.   The involvement continued at National level.

Denis was fairly quickly recruited to the Scottish Hill Runners Association committee and was active on a variety of fronts.   In the mid 90’s the governing body for the hill runners was one of the seven that came together under the Scottish Athletics Federation banner.   He says: “I was active in SHRA committee work and the transition from Scottish Hill Runners Association [aligned to Fell Runners Association] to Hill Running Commission, under direct Scottish Athletic Federation]”  This was a serious exercise as the whole structure of the sport in the country was being radically altered.  Apart from that,  I also did some informal coaching (hunting out Juniors from schools cross-country etc) and facilitating ‘Squad development'(really towards the elites, but in practice superbly supported by ‘rank and file’) under the tutelage of Martin Hyman..   It all developed from there and just grew.  Others pitched in from our ‘friendly sport’ , and took ownership ,led and made things happen, in my opinion, very democratically and inclusively.”

In brief Denis

•  Worked as team manager/ assistant.
•  Worked in race organisation.   
• Carried on with administration (committee) work,
• He also tried to ensure a continued  focus on uphill-only running races (WMRT format ‘bi-annual’) and
• kept working to support juniors entering the sport.  ” Inaugural Juniors Home Championships were at Grasmere, Lake District, won by our Emma Gorman (Milngavie, straight from Cross-Country at school) and John Brooks (Lochaber).   It was a superb set of results too at the later Welsh event in Llanberis..  (we possibly got our ‘best ever’ Scottish athletics team at a single event.”). 

Emma’s picture is below – a real study in concentration and determination as well as a very good image of the height and nature of the course at Grasmere.   Denis commented on the race at Llanberis the following year: rightly so, it was a superb performance by the Scots. In the Under 18 Boys race, Iain Donnan by half a minute from England’s Andy Ellis with the other Scots being John Newsom 4th and Graham Bee 6th totalling 11 points to England’s 15 and Ireland’s 23.   The Under 18 Girls were led home by Sarah Blake who defeated England’s Katie Ingram by 19 seconds with the other two runners being Marbeth Shiell in 5th, Bryony Curtis 6th giving a team total of 12 points to England’s 14 and Ireland’s 19.   In the Under 16 Boys race, The three counting Scots were Scott Fraser 5th, Andrew McCall 6th and David Butcher 7th – all three within 30 seconds of each other.   The team wa second with 18 points, two behind England and six ahead of Ireland.   Three teams, two firsts and one second!   In the remaining race – Under 16 Girls – Jennifer Emsley was unlucky to be just out of the medals in fourth but there was no team there to back her up.   The selectors had done their work well – for a look at the selection race organisation and report just follow  this  link.  

The Fellrunner magazine of February 2003 reported on the race as follows:

“All the home countries plus Ireland made great efforts this year to field full teams for the junior home international which was held on the more gradual grassy slopes of Moel Eilio.   This coupled with a relatively flat start and finish was a much faster course than usual allowing those runners with a degree of speed to compete on more even terms with the more out and out fell junior.   In the team awards, England shared the team honours with Scotland, with Ireland taking a well deserved third in front of hosts Wales.   The competition up front was very competitive with Richard Newton of England winning with the biggest margin of the day.   Other notable wins were those of Karrie Hawitt of England who had the company of the new junior England Fell sensation, 13 year old Daniele Walker, all the way to the turn.   Scotland had two gold stars in Iain Donnan and Sarah Blake who impressed greatly with their front running and, in particular, Iain’s tremendous descending ability.   In the Welsh team, Rhodri Buffet had a super run in winning the  U/16 bronze medal, as did Colm Turner for Ireland in the U/18 race    Eoghan Gill in the U16 Boys race had the best performance from the N Ireland team.”

Denis had been a joint team managher with Helen Diamantides who sent his this note attached to some other correspondence after the event.

He continues, “In Committee work, I was also keen to try and give general runners something to aim for rather than most things being for the Elite athletes, so designed a format for ‘Alternative Hill Racing Champioships’, in 1996,  Effectively turning the  ‘points scored HRC format (21 points for 1st downwards making it easier for stats compilations for the Championships.)’ on it’s head…so that highest results got the fewest points and overall ‘lowest amassed points win’….this accounted for a good few people who went to many events through the year getting credits that were not elitist but results for commitments to ‘many races’.

Meantime, whilst still in Haddington, I was busy in committee work there and held the Chair position. I also helped out at our road race series, racing some; and did a quirky lovely event called The Chairman’s Challenge.  Multi-age team relays around Saltoun Woods, with a BBQ afterwards!! Great fun, serious (seniors trying to get ‘best timed legs!)  but not so serious with wee kids ‘n’ wives involved too!   

From ‘Chasers’, Christmas Newsletter, 1986

I was very generously made Honorary Life Member, and was the club’s ‘first international athlete’ ( having been selected to run Snowdonia (when it was an early-doors true international high calibrate race) ). 

We moved to Torrance with family (work, redundancy related) when at the tail end of my senior-vet period, and needed the Campsies and Lennoxtown Forest to train on.  I only had a couple of years competing as a vet  –  

After the racing, I then started a wee passion to do big ‘runs’ (ridge routes..) with great colleague Peter Marshall, and ultimately as solos.

By this time, still active in admin, management and trying to encourage our sport development, I had lost interest in competing (it had been about 12 years very active racing, plus all the overload of the other stuff as well as a busy life) and ended up training for fitness and trying to balance a career (still 45-50 hours per week), growing family, married life and being a ‘citizen’!!!!”

But Denis was still as active as ever.   For instance

*as part of his interest in education and the next generation of hill runners, he was involved in a Come and Try day, organised by Christine Menhennet in Clydebank.  Just click on the  this link for an account of it.     

*Then there were the squad weekends at Wanlockhead, Comrie, Lochearnhead, Glencoe, Dalbeattie, and more, which, although aimed at the top level of athletes, were open to all who wanted to come and learn.

*The SAF coaching committee wanted to set up a new type of coach education to replace that which had been in place since the days of Frank Dick and the SAAA in the 1970’s and Denis’s expertise was wanted on that too.   

*As part of his involvement with the SAF and its coaching structure, he was one of the selectors for the World Mountain Championships at Berchtesgaden in Germany in September, 1994 along with Jim Darby (national coach) and Alistair Lorimer.

Emma Gorman at Grasmere

Denis was, as suggested at the start of his profile as a runner, very energetic in all that he undertook.   He trained hard and then  combined the training with starting a career as an administrator at HELP where he is still fondly remembered and highly respected as a hard working and loyal club member.   He went on to run successfully on the hills in championships as Senior and Veteran, and in some international races, and managed to combine that with work on the SHRA Committee.  Finally there was his participation in a number of serious initiatives dealing with the development of the sport and its athletes and his duti8es as an international team manager.   As they said at the end of the movie about ‘Gregory’s Girl’ – “What a Guy!”

We’ve got so many great pictures, great examples of athletics middle and long distance memorabilia, from Hugh Barrow that we have to start a new collection.  This is the start of collection 7.     Great pic of Eric Liddell which came from Frederic Humbert.  

The Edinburgh Southern Harriers Clubhouse at Fernieside being built

The plaque placed on the housing built where the clubhouse stood

Pirie, Brasher, Chataway, Bannister, Churchill: Festival of Britain time!

Zatopek finds a new event

1924 Olympic Cross-Country

Hugh says:  Another brilliant post by the equally brilliant Mike Fanelli , who continues to unearth wonderful facts

HOUDINI THE HARRIER
As a youngster, Harry Houdini was a great cross country runner.
Initially he competed for the Allerton Club and then (as pictured here) NYC’s Pastime Athletic Club.
At age 18, he set the record for the loop race aound Central Park.
Around the same time, he defeated Sidney Thomas, an English champion, in a twenty-mile race. Thomas would later set world records for ten-, fifteen-, and twenty-miles.
Many year’s later, I’d quite often run past his former San Francisco home…a great big vertical brick mansion in Sea Cliff, SF’s toniest neighborhood

.It wouldn’t be a Hugh Barrow collection without …  Herb Elliott.

The ‘Fell Runner’ magazine (sometimes called ‘The Fellrunner’) is a  marvellous publication.  It is published by the Fell Runners Association and is a well produced magazine and a fund of  information on the world of all who love to run on the hills of Britain – and indeed further afield.   There are detailed results of pretty all hill races in the country, articles of interest fo all interested in the sport, profiles of individual runners (not all of them champions) , training hints, addresses of accommodation all over the British Isles for those looking for somewhere to stay when running in some of the more remote areas – it also has photographs.   Superb photographs (‘superb’ was chosen deliberately) taken at great vantage points to show the nature of any particular race, to show the height that the athletes have climbed, the view down to the finish or even the feelings of the runner as displayed by his face or body posture.   The magazine is a ‘must have’ for the fell runner.   Some of the photographs will be shown here – mainly those of Scottish runners or races – from the period from Spring 1987.

The Bens of Jura, 1987 (Photo by P. Hartley)

From inside back cover, December, 1988

Colin Donnelly at Edale   (Photo by Peter Hartley)

September 1990

John Blair-Fish, Winner of the Pentland Skyline  (Photo: Brian Covell)

Back Cover:  June 1994

Main picture.  Dermot McGonigle on Ben Shiantaich ; October 1996

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Hill runners all love a challenge.   Not content with doing a Munro, or even two which are side by side, they have such as the Island Peaks Race where they sail from Oban and climb three mountains sailing by boat between them and finish in Ayrshire; or they do the three highest peaks in each of the three countries on the British mainland driving between them by fast car.   But the biggest challenges are those which rely on the runner tackling the environment.   There are three big ’rounds’ that are regarded as classics.   

In England there is the Bob Graham Round: “a fell running challenge in the English Lake District. It is named after Bob Graham (1889–1966), a Keswick  guest-house owner, who in June 1932 broke the Lakeland Fell record by traversing 42 fells within a 24-hour period. Traversing the 42 fells, starting and finishing at Keswick Moot Hall, involves 66 miles (106 km) with 26,900 feet (8,200 m) of ascent.”

In Wales there is the Paddy Buckley Round: “a long distance fell running challenge in Snowdonia. The route is a circuit of just over 100 km long taking in some 47 summits.  The Round has the reputation of being somewhat tougher to complete than its English equivalent, the Bob Graham Round.   Although no official time limit is set, an arbitrary 24 hours is applied, although the first completer exceeded the original aim of 24 hours.

And in Scotland we have the Charlie Ramsay Round: a long distance hill running challenge near Fort William. The route is a circuit of 58 miles, taking in 24 summits with a total climb of around 28,500 feet. Ben Nevis, Great Britain ‘s highest peak, is included in the route along with 22 other Munros.   This article is from the Fellrunner magazine of  Winter 1987 by  Martin Stone.  An Excellent article, it even includes a map of the route and split times.   [As a bonus, there is a note of the new Bob Graham Club members]

Colin Young, talking about his time at Glasgow Universitry and the award of Colours, has this to say:

When I was at Glasgow between 1958 and 1962. I was awarded my colours for athletics so was entitled to buy the dark green tie with a laurel wreath logo – which I wore regularly. A card was issued by GUAC which you took to the authorised supplier – either Rowans or Forsyth’s – and made the appropriate purchase. Club ties were common in those days and Rowans in particular had a whole window round the side of the building filled with an array of smart and sober neckwear.   

Colours were given to those of us who turned out regularly for the team but didn’t meet the standard for a blue by – for example – winning the Inter-Varsities. The colours gave encouragement to those who filled the lower places in the inter university meetings and were an acknowledgement of the teamwork required to win contests. As a 120 yard hurdler I had little chance of beating the first-string athletes – Bobby Mills, Frank Crawley, or Gordon Brown. However, in those days points were awarded as 5, 3, and 1, for first second and third so the second-string runner had a very important role in the overall competition. First and second together counted for 8 points and first and third gave a useful 6 points. Our team captain in my first year – John Asher- was always most encouraging  to those of us filing the second and third places and  in a memorable phrase he once voted myself and one of the other athletes those who had “ got the finger furthest out” that day, for unexpectedly filing second and third places to help win a match!

The GU Colours tie.

The Edinburgh Uuniversity website tells us that Colours were awarded for services to and dedication to University Sport and to University Sports Clubs.   It adds:  Colours reward those individuals have given time and effort above and beyond the call of duty to their chosen sport or Club. University Sport could not operate without these volunteers organising and co-ordinating Clubs and the Colours award recognises this endeavour.

Successful nominees for Sports Union Colours tend to show good club commitment, including an exceptional playing or appearance record, have a history of service to the Club through serving on Club Committees or in other positions, or have a good history of coaching and encouraging new members. Successful candidates tend to go beyond the duties of their Committee positions. Nominees will be a playing member of the Sports Union (though not necessarily to a high standard) and will be available to represent the University in the first instance (i.e. they prioritised the University Club over other commitments).

The university lists 65 ‘sports’ eligible for the award of Colours including Archery, Association Football, Women’s Assn Football, .and end with  Wakeboard & Waterski, Weightlifting and Windsurfing and surfing.   

Colin Young was a student at Edinburgh University and won his Colours there giving him an interesting ‘double colours’ – Glasgow and Edinburgh Universities.   He says of this spell:

“Athletes who participated regularly for Edinburgh but whose performances didn’t justify the award of a Blue were awarded a “Green”. Somewhat confusingly this was sometimes called a Half Blue – presumably because the recipient could move up to a Full Blue if his or her performance in subsequent seasons justified it.  Some universities awarded half blues to sports which did not merit the status of a full blue – as described elsewhere by Sandy Sutherland – but I don’t know if this was the case at Edinburgh.

The “Greens” tie was a simple bottle green one with a silver stripe -which doesn’t really convey much except to those few who know what it means.   However there was also a very smart bottle green blazer which could be purchased – complete with the university badge. I guess this had the advantage over the blues blazer that it could be worn as casual wear after leaving university without being as noticeable as the blues blazer. An authorisations card from EUAC was needed to allow purchase of Green Colours from R.W. Forsyth.”

Aberdeen University in 2020: Colours Awards.   The AUSA Sport Colours Awards are for individuals who have made an outstanding contribution to their club or to sport at Aberdeen. The award takes into account not only sporting performance and achievement but also positions of responsibility, fundraising and developing new players among others. They are awarded at two levels, Colours and Colours with Distinction and are presented each year at the Sports Union AGM.

Colin Youngson thinks that (back in the late 1960s and early 70s) Aberdeen University Club Colours were awarded to athletes who were not yet good enough to be nominated for Half-Blues or indeed Blues. They might be promising first-team newcomers, valuable regular members of the first team, or hard triers who were popular because they made the absolute best of limited talent. He recalls receiving Club Colours (a small tracksuit badge with the university crest) in his first year with Aberdeen University Hare and Hounds (as well as a Half-Blue); but does not remember gaining Club Colours for the Athletics Club, despite going on to obtain Half and Full Blues on the track.   

The Aberdeen University practice was to award those attaining colours to wear a patch, illustrated bottom centre above, on their tracksuit.    Also shown above are some of the medals  that the University awarded for championships.   We also have examples of medals presented by both Glasgow and Edinburgh.   These are shown below.   Edinburgh first, front on top, then reverse:

Then Glasgow :

St Andrews: Colours are awarded to students who have demonstrated extreme sporting excellence not at the standard of a Half-Blue, have enhanced student experience or have enhanced club engagement.   The range of sports involved is as noted in the article on Blues

University of the Highlands and Islands: Colours: To receive a Colour, athletes, where applicable, need to serve and play for their club and to be regular first team members, representing the team in at least 65% of the eligible matches, recording at least one victory.

`999 was a good year for the Scottish Hill Runner – 4 fat issues plus the shiny covered 36 page journal.   Mark Rigby had been editor for some time and had done a marvellous job in regular porduction and improving the standard of the magazine and this year was the best yet.

This was the format that would be used for some time to come – no picture but quite a lot of information.

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The  Journal for 2000 – 2001 was A4 sized and ran to 82 pages.  Front page above, back pagebelow.

The above cover was the standard cover for the magazine through the rest of 1994 and the whole of 1995

The January 1996 issue was a wrap around and the whole montage is shown here

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The Scottish Hill Runner proved to be a success and it went from strength to strength.   The covers with their illustrations – which became increasingly sophisticated – will be reproduced here and on successive pages.   Almost all have the date on the front cover. 

The original from the front cover of April 1993

The full wrap around cover for the August 1993 issue

The Original of Emma Gorman – December 1993 cover

It is possible to look at the career of any sportsman, particularly a successful sportsman in terms of awards. medals or trophies won to miss the big picture because of the focus on the triumphs.   Tom McKean was often accused of not racing enough but when time was taken to look at all the racing that he had done over the season, then the numbers contradicted that impression.   With that in mind, we can look at Denis’s career as a runner.  He himself describes his career in ‘phases’ and accordingly what follows is numbered in chronological sequence.   Some have been referred to in the previous page but as a totality the whole is overwhelming. 

As a pupil at Knox Academy in Haddington, he remembers doing the junior and senior ‘marathons’ where he thinks that ‘a place’ in first year ‘junior’, and possibly 1st in Jnr in 2nd year.
Then 2nd in senior marathon in 3rd year (behind Drew Donaldson who was probably in his 4-5th year?)
Then 1st, for 4th, 5th, 6th year..

After the school races he joined Haddington East Lothian Pacemakers and started running Marathons – seen above finishing the Edinburgh Marathon.  The marathon memories are discussed next>

Marathons : Trial in August on my own course getting 2.36.xx just before my 30th birthday, 15/8/82. [Dad was away a few days later].
Then Edinburgh, 2.34.xx, September 1984, with great running pal Phil Beeson, over the line together.   I think we were 26th out of possibly 2,000 runners
Then Snowdonia in October 1984 with the disastrous ‘dehydrated’ finish and 3rd in 2.42.xx behind Mike Neary and Malcolm Jones. [I clearly relate to Callum Hawkins’ desperate failure at the marathon ‘3’years ago when he ‘dnf’ due to dehydration shock].
Finally Galloway in April 1985, 4th in 2.31.xx…another torrid last few miles with heaving stomach, chilled and maybe bad water at last station…

Of course as a member of HELP he ran in Club, District, National and open races and of this period he says, ” In between times I cannot think of anything exceptional in terms of road races or Cross-Country…but I was mightily glad not to lose any places at the Edinburgh to Glasgow relay I ran in (one and only) covering the last leg. in the team that was 14th in 1988.   It is interesting to look at the results of the races he ran in, he was relatively better placed, further up the field and running in better company than in the road races.  

Denis came to hill racing rather late compared to many (most?) of competitors.   He says of his hill racing career: 

The first year or two were a mighty and serious introduction…
So, 1985 and ‘86 were a bit special and I think Carnethy, Ben Lomond, Bens of Jura (what a classics introduction!!), Chapelgill, Moffat Chase, Two Breweries, Angus Munro’s (old course) ..the Ben….
ALL of these were standouts and I think generally I was very proud to run and survive the big ones with decent results (???) ...so these early ‘apprenticeship years’ were precious…I learned loads from my superb peers, and refined hill-craft!

Other stand-outs have to be the races that helped me clinch my medals, so in Scottish Champs of 6 out-of-9 races I knew that being in the ‘first 6’ of each of those’9’ (if I could manage them all.) I’d highly likely get a medal’; I got bronze, silver and gold (and gold vets) so obviously every one of my Champs races were precious…
I knew I could get gubbed by ‘many’ on the shorts or even mediums, but I knew I had an edge over most on the longs!

And of course, there were the internationals.   Of these he says this.
“Of course ‘selection’ races were precious to put myself into a shortlist….  I think I was favoured from ‘overall racing ability’ for at least 2 or 3 of the 4 vests I got. I maybe ‘scored’ at the Dollar Hill uphill selection race at Tweedsmuir, but I cannot remember.   Of course I cherish all my vests, and at the times, believed I had done ‘decently well’ . but used to then think back ‘could I, should I have done a bit better?’ for the Team results. (I think I was in 4th team in Keswick…?)..  The internationals were pitched at a different level to the Scottish Champs, and were ‘all-or-nothing’ one-off races, so the pressure was rather different. In the Scottish vests’ I always ‘placed’ (first 3 of 4 to count)…probably reflecting my ‘consistent decent-mediocrity’…!

I would think that he does himself down a bit in the remarks above on selection.   I have been involved in team selection and don’t know if there were ever any big favours done.   When he says that his overall racing ability was in his favour, it would probably be the case that ‘overall racing ability’ was one of the criteria against which all contenders are measured.   Have a look at the face in the picture above – it is the face of a competitor, not the face of a time triallist.   Selectors want competitors.   

Des Crowe, Malcolm Patterson and Dermot McGonigle

When talking to athletes coaches often urge them to be ‘task focused’ not ‘self focused’.   It would seem to be the case that Denis is a natural example of what coaches look for.   He says when asked a couple of times for detail of races, “Being honest, I never diarised, – usually a wee note in the race calendar or on the back of my race number. I was not precious about the ‘keeping of racing results’ and I was too busy to be a good personal record keeper. At the end of the day, ‘sights were set on objectives’ and race places (rarely ‘I’m going to win this one’!) I treated every race as history!…what’s the next immediate challenge in front of me?  Of course I had to have a good feel for who were close to me and thus ‘could I manage to get a few points off ‘so-and-so’?’   So we have a task focused competitor who didn’t keep diaries.  Maybe more on this later, but has taken the trouble to reconstruct many of the key races of his career which looks like this.

Marathons
Galloway, 28/4/85,  4th [P Howarth, 2.27.10; M Bately 2.31.02; D Thomas 2.31.07; D Bell 2.31.29.

Early races [these are off my race numbers and a few certificates/ race result sheets]
Carnethy, 16/2/85, 11th, 53m 56s (in racing flats!)
Chapelgill, 23/3/85, 8th, 20m 34s, 1 minute behind winner; 68 starters.
Ben Lomond, 4/5/85, 4th, 67m 55s.
Bens of Jura 25/5/85, 8th, 3hr 51m 16s (82 starters; winner 3h 16m !)
Dollar, 8/6/85, 6th, 42m 33s (69 starters)
Eildons 22/6/85, 19th, 29m 24s (6th scot, probably a British Champs race. Winner H Symonds, Kendal, 27m 31s)
Ben Nevis, 7/9/85 , 28thth, 1hr 37m 25s (500 starters/435 finishers)   Winner H Symonds, Kendal, 1:28:00

Total (underestimate of the total – doesn’t include club races, cross-country, etc)  7 Hill Races, 1 Marathon.

1986 Sco Champs – 4th @ 82 points, behind D McGonigle 116; A Farningham, 109; A Curtis 89 points.
Carnethy 15/2/86, 8th, 65 mins?? 5th scot.
Chapelgill 22/3/86, 5th, 21m 38s??
Dollar 7/6/86, 5th, 43m37s , 5th scot [D McGonigle 1st, 42m 17s’ A Curtis, A Farningham, R Boswell)
Lomond of Fife 15/6/86, 1st, 1hr 07m 47s. [D McGonigle 2nd, D Rodgers, A Farningham]
Eildons 21/6/86, 10th, 28m 11s, 4th scot.

Snowdon, 19th July 86, 16th, 1hr 09m 47s, 3rd Scot – (C Donnelly 4th, 1.05.16, D McGonigle 15th 1.09.32). (And I think 22nd at top, probably 10th fastest descent)
2 Breweries, ?? Sept 86, 3h 06m 21s, 6th (165 starters)[1st J Maitland, 2h 48m, 2nd A Farningham, 5th A Curtis]
Ben Nevis, 6/9/86, 1 h 36m 11s, 23rd.   ‘disaster..legs went at the Green Bank when placed about 14th…!?.’  Winner C Donnelly (Eryri) 1:25:48
Tinto, 8/11/86 , 6th (34.50, same time as Ian Davidson) out of 103 starters ….winner A Curtis, 40 secs ahead.

Total: 9 Races   (see note for 1985) Top Ten: 5 + 3 top ten Scots

Carnethy 5 14/2/87, 12th o/a, 4th scot [excl M Patterson, running for Dark Peak FR] 52m 22s.
Criffel ???, 11th o/a, 6th scot 52m 28s
Ben Lomond 9/5/87, 1h 08m 19s, 11th, and 6th scot.
Dollar 12/6/87, 7th, 43m 36s
Lomond of Fife 13/6/87, 4th, 1h 07m 08s
Eildons 20/6/87, 5th, 28m 06s
Edinburgh 7 Hills 21/6/87, 5th, 1h 37m 48s
N Berwick Law ??June, 4th, 18m 33s
Angus Munro’s 9/8/87, 6th, 3h 49m 53s
Caerketton 19/8/87, 5th, 13m 31s
Arrochar Alps 22/8/87, 8th, 3h 31m 34s
2 Breweries 26/9/87, 6th, 2h 48m 06s

Total: 12 Races (9 top ten) + 3 top ten Scots

Carnethy 5, 20/2/88, 3rd, 49.55****
Criffel 13/3/88, 4th, ???m s
Chapelgill 26/3/88, 10th, ??m s
Kaim 15/5/88, 5th, 28m 39s
Bens of Jura 28/5/88, 7th, 3h 22m 35s
Traprain Law 11/6/88, 2nd, 39m 47s (Johnny Ross, 39m 39s)
Lomond s of Fife 12/6/88, 3rd, ??m s
Edinburgh 7 Hills 19/6/88, 2nd, 1h ?m ?s (A Farningham)
Eildons 2 Hills 25/6/88, 3rd, 28m 45s (AFarningham; J Wilkinson)
Moffat Chase 4/7/88, ?????
North Berwick Law 3/8/88, 3rd, 18m 06s (J Wilkinson, A Farningham)
Angus Munro’s 7/8/88, 2nd, 3h 16m 52s (C Donnelly, 3h 10, 3rd A Farningham, 3h 17)
2 Breweries 24/9/88, 9th, 2h 52m ?s (J Maitland, 2h 37m ?s0.
Pentlands Skyline 9/10/88, 2nd, 3h 16m 52s (C Donnelly, 3h 10m 05s; 3rd A Farningham, 3h 17m 02s..)E to G 13/11/88  Rod Stone; Johnny Ross; Joe Forte; Andy Graham; Peter Marshall;  John Graham; Scot Mathieson; DB (31m 06s)
Keswick WMRT, ‘Coledale Horseshoe’, 16/10/88, 21st, 74m 48s (C Donnelly 5th, 70m 25s; 13th J Maitland 72m 45s. 4th team on 39 points, 11 behind Switzerland).

Total: 16 races, 1 WMRT, 4 seconds, 4 thirds,  4 more top ten.

And in the WMRT, 17/9/89 [ladies 5th; 6,25,26th :short men 3rd; 2,12,15th ]: Debis was in the long men’s race finishing 8th; 28,31,46th – 10 points behind England in 7th (66 points).