University Blues

Sandy Sutherland modelling the light blue blazer

Being awarded a Blue for your sport at University was a very high honour indeed with very few being awarded each year.   Wikipedia comments that “A blue is an award of  sporting colours earned by athletes at some universities and schools for competition at the highest level. The awarding of blues began at Oxford and Cambridge universities in England.”  All sports which represented the University were able to award a Blue.  The practice was almost immediately adopted by all four of the “ancient” universities of Scotland it is a signal award for any sportsman.   Usually awarded for general excellence in the chosen sport over a period, very few are awarded in any one year.   eg in Glasgow there was one awarded by the Hares & Hounds in 1962-63 (Allan Faulds) and then one awarded in 1964-65 (Brian Scobie).    Former GU H&H secretary John McCall tells us that “A Blue was awarded , eg for being Scottish university champion, running in British university championships etc. Jim Bogan, Doug Gifford, Brian Scobie, Allan Faulds, Calum Laing etc were all blues. I think Hares and Hounds would nominate to GUAC.”

The GUAC team from the early 1960’s with several blues included – notably WM Campbell, C Laing, J Bogan and RD Baillie

The road to the Blue went through another vetting    Sandy Sutherland (a double blue himself – athletics and weight-lifting – was President of the GUAC and at one time in the 1960’s chaired the Blues Committee.  He had signed the certificates when he was Secretary.  He says: “In my day the main criterion was that you had to have represented Scottish Universities or better – a full internationalist would almost certainly be awarded a full BLUE but forms had to be filled in and the club committee had to propose and second him or her.”   On the question of whether an athlete could receive a Blue for the same sport in more than one year, he was quite clear –  “at Glasgow University once a Blue always a Blue and you were eligible to wear the Blue apparel – in the past there may well have been additional stripes or colours or whatever! But if you succeeded in a different sport then you could become a DOUBLE Blue as I was in athletics (track & field) and weight-lifting.”   So – not possible to get a Blue a year with added bars or dates to the blazer at Glasgow University. 

This was corroborated by Douglas MacDonald who was on the committee 20 years later.   He says:    “My first spell on the blues committee was in my role as GUAC president in the early 80s. As far as I can remember, the process was that the different GUAC clubs nominated candidates for Blues to the Blues committee who considered the supporting material prior to awards being made at the annual Blues dinner. At this dinner, the prize for best club and best sports individual was also made.   The Blue was awarded for one season only: not for achievements over a student’s university year.   I don’t remember many clubs nominating athletes for half blues but it was within the power of the blues committee to award this if they hadn’t been fully persuaded by the club’s presentation.     He went on to say that “There were no formal guidelines for Blues nominations so the committee was often faced to make impossible comparisons between sports in trying to establish comparable merit. The situation was made more difficult by some clubs whose committees thought that speculative nominations were legitimate (inflated claims of merit, etc.) ”   There will be some comments about the difficulties faced by the committee at the end of this article.

The card above was awarded to international diver and British Champion James McBrayne at Glasgow.    In 1964 McBrayne had been second in the British Universities Springboard Championship but in 1965 he won the Scottish Springboard and Highboard Championships, and the British Universities Springboard with a third place in the Highboard.   Superb achievements.   

The athlete was usually allowed to buy blazer and tie, with the appropriate insignia.  Most bought the tie but were reluctant to splash out on a blazer – especially if the award was in the final or even penultimate year. Once the announcement of the award was made, the athlete was given the accreditation to purchase the relevant items.     The Glasgow Blues tie is shown below, and Sandy Sutherland models the blazer at the top of the page.   

Douglas MacDonald refers above to the annual Blues Dinner.   This was more than just an annual club knees-up as Wikipedia says “The Glasgow University Sports Association provides financial, administrative and representational support to individuals and groups involved in sport and recreation at University of Glasgow.   There are currently over 40 clubs affiliated to the Association.   The highlight of the  Association’s year is the GUSA Ball (or Annual Awards Dinner and Dance) in February, a black-tie affair at which Blues, Half-Blues and Awards are presented to successful athletes and teams. “

 

One former Blue said apologetically that he was a bit obsessive-compulsive and had kept all his stuff.   He was sorry that he couldn’t afford the blazer but he had everything else.   There was no need for him to be apologetic – it was an honour awarded at a time when University sports were respected and highly regarded at national level, and  the chosen sport could be indulged in freely and with great pleasure.   Many former Blues keep the precious awards safely tucked away after leaving their alma mater.   

It was also a matter for debate which sports could award Blues – not all sports were equal in the eyes of sportsmen.   We obtained some extracts from the Glasgow University Athletic Club Committee and the first comments refer to this aspect.   A range of sports are mentioned here in the context of Blues being awarded.

11/12/56 GU basketball applied for Full Blue status.
28/1/57 Basketball was awarded Full Blue status by GUAC
11/3/58 John Asher well known and popular member of the GU athletics community was awarded a Shinty BLUE.
               Basketball Full Blues were awarded to D.M McKinnon and W Warden
10/6/58 A Half Blue for Basketball was awarded to Norma Fraser who had toured with the Scottish Ladies Team.
10/2/59 Mr J. Gilroy was invited to join the GUAC Blues Committee
3/3/59 Jim Bogan  was awarded a Cross Country Blue as were Stan Horn  and Eileen Wilson for hockey.
9/6/59 Ann Glen awarded a Full Blue for athletics.
              Colin Keith (javelin), Bobby Mills (440 hurdles) John Addo (long and triple jumps), W.R Galbraith, John C Swai and Miss L Williams also awarded                 Full Blues.
14/6/60 a second Full Blue was awarded to Ann Glen in Basketball
13/6/61 Athletics Full Blues awarded to Ming Campbell, Frank Crawley (high hurdles), Calum Laing, Alison Langlands,
12/6/62 Full Blues in athletics awarded to Ray Bailiie (880y one mile) Jim Tynan (javelin),  and A.L.Sutherland!
 
Athletics, Basketball, Hockey, Cross-Country and Shinty were all there.   There is also reference to the Blues Committee  as well as the need for recognition to go through the Committee before any sport could award a Blue.

The EUAC team with the honours won by the members noted with the key at the foot.

In Edinburgh, the situation was similar .   Alistair Blamire  was a member of the superb cross-country and track team in the 1960’s and has written a ‘must-read’ account of the period in his book ‘The Green Machine’.    He says: 

“In our day each sport put forward a list of people each year for consideration (for ‘blues’ and ‘greens’, which were ‘half blues’). A sub-committee of the Edinburgh University Athletic Club, which represented all sports and is now called the Edinburgh University Sports Union, then interviewed a representative (e.g. Captain or Secretary) from each sport, and a decision was taken on each nominee. I was on the committee in 1966-67 and I recall that we didn’t leave the room when our own sport came up, which was a bit ‘Non-U’ I suppose.”

When our team were doing really well the whole first team, and on one occasion a second team member too, were awarded blues.   People bought blazers and ties depending on inclination (I had a tie). Quite a few runners had ambitions beyond the ‘blue’ so didn’t consider it a particular honour.   I suppose Cambridge and Oxford ‘Blues’ carried more kudos.”

Just as the Glasgow University Athletic Club became the Glasgow University Sports Association, the Edinburgh University Athletic Club became the Edinburgh University Sports Union.

Ian Young who was also at Edinburgh in the 1960’s adds to the story when he says:   “Edinburgh Blues were awarded for all round excellence rather than a single outstanding performance.  Commitment to the team was paramount.  I was particularly aggrieved in my first year when I was awarded a half blue, or ‘Green’ by the EUH&H despite having represented Scotland (ICCU Champs, Ostend, 1965), Scottish Universities, etc in my fresher year, but I was not awarded a Blue because I had not shown enough commitment to team events during that season, so it was not individual excellence which counted, it was a high level of performance throughout the season.”

The comment about continuous performance throughout the season is backed up by the comment  “Awarded to those who have performed at a consistently high level for their club” on the University website in 2020.   He goes on to speak of the actual award and what was involved:   

In my case I had 6 Blues awarded during my 5 year university career, I think 4 from EUH&H and 2 from EUAC for track performance.  In no case did I apply for or promote myself for the award.  I believe the names were put forward to the EU Sports Union by the respective club captains and if accepted, the recipient got a note of the award which he or she could then take to the official University Outfitters to get the appropriate blues clothing.  This consisted of the Blues blazer, tie and ‘Wrap’ which was a heavy scarf of blazer-type material which would have the initials of the recipient, sports section and award dates embroidered in white on the blue material.  The blazer was an expensive piece of kit with the university crest, the sports section initials and the award dates all embroidered with real silver wire thread on the breast pocket.  Again, subsequent dates could be added.  The blues tie was blue silk with a diagonal silver stripe and no wording, so was the most commonly visible sign of that status.”   There must have been at least a perception of a significant award when we look at the trappings: Ian’s description of the blazer and of the ‘Wrap’  are of  items of real significance.   

Ian Young’s Blues blazer with the crest and the wrap round the shoulders with crest on the left (both blues emvroidered)

and his initials woven into it on the right.

The two photographs of the University teams are notable for what they highlight.   Ian tells us that “There was also the additional kudos in the end of season team photograph where individual names were followed by a list of symbols which denoted whether you were a blue or a green, Scottish internationalist, Scottish University representative, SCCU representative, etc and there was always great interest to see who had the most symbols!”

Another aspect of the Edinburgh scene was that there was a club called the Spartans, an elite social sports club which only recipients of Blues were entitled to join.  This also had its own club tie and was a platform for Blues recipients across all the university sports clubs to meet as a common social grouping.

Note the starred athletes.

From Aberdeen we have Colin  Youngson’s ‘Blues’ card, and some other memorabilia, shown below.   Note that the tie is also there.

There was other paraphernalia associated with the award – Colin’s Aberdeen collection is below. 

He also has his athletic club cards, a different colour each year to make it easier to see who’s up to date with the sub!

The card contained many things including the year’s fixture list

When we asked Colin about the Aberdeen University procedures, he said

“Aberdeen University based Cross-Country Blues on average positions against other universities in each fixture.   For example if there was an AU v GU v EU match and I finished third overall, with two Edinburgh runners  in front, my Blues score would be 3 + 1.    If it was a 7 university fixture then AU v GU, AU v Strath, AU v HW etc would have to be worked out individually.   To be even considered for a full blue, your Cross-Country race average for the whole season had to be under 3.    Then performances in BUSF Cross-Country and the Scottish National might be considered by the AU Sports Committee, plus representing Scottish Unis against the SCCU or English Universities in BUSF.    Decision (for a nomination for any sport) might be no award, half blue or full blue. Once a full blue, always a full blue- it could not be awarded twice.

For track athletics (and road running), Scottish National Standards were also taken into consideration. For example, in my last year at AU, trying to obtain a Full Blue for Athletics, I made up a nomination form featuring a) race average positions in track fixtures (I usually ran both 1500m and 5000m). Attaining National standards for Steeplechase, 10,000m, 10 Miles Track (plus a bronze medal in this race) and Marathon. Running 1500m for Scottish Universities v Irish and Belgian ones. Two decent races in the BUSF track champs in Birmingham. The AU Sports Committee’s decision was final – no appeals!

By my era (1966-71), hardly anyone bought an ostentatious and somewhat dated blues blazer. Most bought a tie and a scarf (powder blue!) which could be embroidered with white letters signifying Sport and date awarded – I lost mine somehow, but still wear the tie very occasionally, for example at Donald Ritchie’s funeral, since my old friend and rival often wore his.”

We now know that, unlike Edinburgh or Glasgow, Aberdeen had known rules for nomination for the awards with some scope for particularly good performances or meritorious selections to be taken into account.   Like Glasgow, there was only one Blue for an athlete’s entire career.   We also asked him about the ‘personal application’ aspect of the award and his response to both of these queries was as follows: “There were no repeat blues in the same branch of a sport.  The sports person could go from half blue to full.   I  could only self nominate by my fifth and final year; otherwise the club would nominate or not nominate you.”

Colin is in the middle of the front row of the Aberdeen University team in the photograph below.

The St Andrews University website simply says about the Blue that:  Full Blues are awarded to athletes with senior international representation.  and  Half blues are awarded to athletes who have displayed exceptional sporting achievement that is not at the level of a Full Blue.   This is a bit different again but there have been many athletes from the University of senior international standard – Don Macgregor being the outstanding one.    The route to a Blue was similar in all Universities and with the award of a Blue at St Andrews you were entitled to purchase a tie, a scarf and a blazer. The photos below illustrate all of these for 1956-7 as awarded to Ian Docherty.   He was in the St Andrews team that won the National Junior and also had a Track and Field Blue. (He is also known for beating Ron Hill in a 3 mile race on the grass track in 15.05. )   For those who received the award, there was a dinner where the Blues were awarded and where you could wear the gear.   Ian is pictured below wearing the appropriate clothing.

Scarf and tie

Blazer

 Given the standard however there will not be too many in any one year.   The Photograph below is of the St Andrews Cross-Country Team of 1959.

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Strathclyde University in Glasgow also has its own Blues system and Graham Getty who has full Blues for Track as well as for Cross-Country in 1979. 1980 and 1981 has sent us some interesting material from his personal archive.   A picture of the scarf first.

He tells us “On one side you see the SU badge and the years I was awarded Blues. From memory, I had to purchase the scarf from Rowans in Glasgow and then when I was awarded the 2nd Blue in the following year, I had to take the scarf back to Rowans so that  the 2nd year could be sewn onto it).   Scarf is made of a thick wool with a blue braid round the edges.   On the other end of the scarf , you see my initials  (G.R.A.G).”   

The scarf is similar in style to the St Andrews and Edinburgh versions and it is interesting to see that sport people at the university could have more than one Blue.   The procedure is also of interest.   The first intimation that he had been successfully nominated for the award came in a formal letter from the University Athletic Club.   The award would be presented at the Annual Dinner/Dance.   The one below is for cross-country running.

The athlete replied saying that he would be at the function in question and received the formal invitation.

The function would take place on the due date and the menu contained details of the performances which had earned the reward.

There you have it – the full citation for Graham Getty.    And that still was not all.   There was the presentation and he has a copy of the official  photograph of the presentation being made by Mrs Frank Clement.

There was a Blues certificate which, apart from being a mini-treasure in its own right, allowed the holder to buy the official scarf  and tie plus access to other benefits that fell to a Full Blue of Strathclyde University.   

There are more of Graham’s Blues documentation at the link.

Despite the casual dress code of the 21st century, it is perhaps surprising that so many former Blues still have at least the Blues tie.   There are also quite a few with the certificate or authorisation card.   

There are however issues associated with the awarding process and its, often apparently unfair, results.    Sandy Sutherland tells the following tale.  

“Regarding the actual Blues award itself I assume we all copied it from Oxbridge where it was initially awarded to those who had actually competed in the annual Oxford v Cambridge match in what ever sport and not all sports were considered worthy.   We had a great example of this in basketball when one member, now nearly 90 and a distinguished  student of the stars – he was i/c the Royal Observatory at Hurstmonceaux  n Sussex I believe – – went to Cambridge and actually captained them to victory over Oxford round about 1953-55 he told me!   He was only awarded a HALF Blue as the Blues committee at Cambridge did not consider Basketball a sport worthy of a FULL Blue.  Why? Because not all the players on the bench at one time were on the court!!  Only the rowers in the BOAT are awarded full BLUES! And to this day – and much to his irritation he has never received his FULL Blue.”

As a graduate of Glasgow who did not run for the University, I knew many of their runners, met them in the Union and at races, there were some issues that present themselves.   One of those was the question of how the Blues Committee compared the relative merits of those recommended.   I asked Douglas McDonald about this and his comment was that “In the early to mid 90s I was invited back onto the Blues committee as an ex-president external member. Many of the same problems mentioned above were evident. Over the course of two years I encouraged the committee to invite clubs to submit objective standards for what they thought would be an appropriate level to award a blue, arguing that this would mean that the award would not be about personalities and would have consistency beyond the life span of rapidly changing club committees. It would mean that the blues committee would have to invest more time considering the initial proposals but that the subsequent awards could be done with very much less fuss. (obviously the committee would be open to any club that wished to adjust their objective standards at a point in the future). I believe that work started on this but I don’t know if it was ever achieved “.   In the course of writing this, I have followed up his point and it is doubtful if his recommendation has been followed through.   It would seem to me to be very difficult to compare the various activities that St Andrews was awarding their Blues for in 2019.   eg how do you compare the relative merits of Dance and football?   Is a Senior International appearance for lacrosse equally valid to one for rugby?   Is a 10th place in the national cross-country less worthy than a GB representation at Frisbee?

Blues in the 21st Century

This may be totally irrelevant in the 21st century however when it may be that the Blue has lost a lot of its significance.   When I took up the sport in 1957 and was talking to another runner about Bobby Calderwood of Victoria Park I was told that he was the first runner not to run for his university but to go on representing his club.   That was a time when the Inter-Varsities was a major meeting and the University clubs were well represented at the SAAA Championships and in international teams.  Bobby’s decision had been an eye-opener for many.   Record  holders and champions like David Gracie were representing their Universities (in his case, Glasgow) and not their clubs (Larkhall YMCA).   International teams had University athletes turning out in numbers – Douglas Edmunds, Adrian Jackson and many more wore the dark blue.   

But by the 1980’s the situation was a lot more mixed.  The situation developed until in the 1990’s top quality athletes like  Alistair Douglas, Victoria Park, were running for their clubs for almost the entire year but turning out for the University in inter-university events.   Alistair Johnstone who was in a similar frame of mind, ie studying at Strathclyde University but running mainly for his club, only racing for Strathclyde in the Scot Unis and BUSF championships said when asked:  “I wasn’t eligible for a Blue unfortunately because I maintained VPAAC as my First Claim club and therefore  competed against Strathclyde in Open competition.   However I thoroughly enjoyed training with and competing for them in confined university races and helped them a lot – 3rd team place in Hyde Park Relays 1969 , 3rd individual Scot Univs. c c champs. 1969 , 16th. in BUSF c c champs 1969 ( and counted along with Edinburgh University’s lads in winning Scot. Univ.’s team to beat UAU’s team) – also I was usually first or second to John Myatt in various inter university. c c events.”   The fellow feeling was there but having come up through the ranks with Under 15’s, Under 17’s and Under 20’s with a club, having many friends at the club, it was the allegiance that was strongest for the runners mentioned.    

This led to the obvious questions, “What is the current situation regarding the award of Blues at Scottish Universities?   Does the modern student in the 21st century value the award as much as their predecessors did?”   Given the the four ‘ancients’ still make the awards, a look at some University websites revealed that many of them do and that they are part of a structured programme of sport.   For instance, the University of the Highlands and Islands says 

What are the Sporting Blues?

  • Colours – To receive a Colour, athletes, where applicable, need to serve and play for their club and to be regular 1st team members, representing the team in at least 65% of the eligible matches, recording at least one victory.
  • Half Blues – Awarded to athletes for playing well above the average standard for a University 1st team (where applicable) or represent the University as an individual in national level competition.
  • Full Blues – Awarded to athletes of outstanding ability judged by standards applicable to students’ different sports.
  • Sports Person of the Year – This is an award for truly exceptional athletes, the panel will decide annually whether to award it, with the decision following the same criteria as that for a Full Blue
  • Honorary Blue- Honorary Blue – awarded to athletes that have won medals at World Championships, World Cups, Commonwealth Games, Olympic Games or equivalent relevant to their sport. The award may also be made to a person connected with UHI with an outstanding contribution to University, Scottish, British or world sport.  

This is very similar to the other systems noted above but is slightly wider in the formal recognition of an Honorary Blue.  

One of the first ‘new’ universities to join the established four universities in the early 1960’s was Dundee University and their website in 2020 says:

“The Blues and Colours Awards celebrate the finest in student sport at the University of Dundee, across the country, and recognising achievements by students for their competitive success or club commitments as a volunteer. From our athletes competing nationally on the world sporting stage representing Scotland or regionally representing the university, to those who have gone above and beyond in their chosen sport giving that extra time to advance the development of their club.”

It is also possible to read about Blues and their awards at several other universities such as Strathclyde, Stirling and Heriot-Watt but the most recent additions to the 19 degree awarding institutions in the country do not as yet have a sports structure which supports these awards despite having several courses dealing with sports or sport related topics.   The situation seems to be then that most universities award Blues to their outstanding sportsmen and women.   Most also follow the traditional method of individual sports making a nomination to a central blues and awards committee for approval.   The criteria are institution specific, and the criteria for the award are set at that level.   

 There are some differences though.

The range of sports is much wider, over 60 sports are recognised for Blues awards across the country and this makes the evaluation of nominations more difficult.    As an example, we can perhaps look at the 2020 Blues awarded by St Andrews University.   The totals were 8 full blues, 38 half blues with 16 sports represented and 22 sports awarding Colours.   These receiving the awards include Boats, Cheerleading, Cricket, Dance, Football, Netball, Pool, Sailing, Shinty, Tennis, Trampoline, Triathlon, Ultimate and Waterpolo.    I am reliably informed that Ultimate (originally known as Ultimate Frisbee) is a non-contact team sport played with a flying disc.   I am further informed that St Andrews has a highly organised coaching system for the sport with serious training done throughout the week.   

The Universities, then, continue to award Blues as before in the 21st century albeit for more sports.   Blues winners are now entitled to their certificate, usually a medal and the right to buy a tie.   The days of Blazer and scarf/wrap are largely things of the past.   One thing that hasn’t changed however is the Awards Ceremonies.   The award entitles the winner to attend the Ball or Dinner, depending on the institution which is a real social highspot.  The awards themselves have a great deal of cachet and the sports clubs that have winners gain some prestige by doing so.     The Blues live on.

Scottish Universities Championships 1961

The Universities championships had played an important part in Scottish athletics since the end of the nineteenth century.   Every season was different with new athletes appearing on the scene and some old favourite athletes returning to their club, or indeed to their own country in the case of foreign students.   You can read about the seasons of 1961 and 1962 at   this link  .

The programme was only half the size of that from 1959 with many fewer advertisements.   They were held in Aberdeen and again there were many easily recognisable names across the afternoon.  Again the programme was provided by Colin Young.   Results at the foot of the page.

 

 

 

Scottish Universities Championships 1959

The Universities championships were hard fought and the ‘four ancients’ were still to the fore in the 1950’s and early 1960’s.   The championships of 1959 were held at Westerlands  in Glasgow, pavilion above) and the standard of competition was very high indeed right across the card.   For a glimpse of the universities track and field  season 1959season follow this link .  

Hurdler Colin Young showed us the programme.   Bigger than many programmes, it ran to 16 pages and included many (paid for) advertisements.   Results at the foot of the page.

 

 

 

Victoria Park AAC Handbook: 1972/73

Unlike the handbook for 1962/63, this version recognised the women’s side of the sport – note the ‘new’ affiliation to the SWAAA on the front cover where the previous one had only the two men’s governing bodies.   There are other differences that will be obvious as you go through it.   The handbook is courtesy Colin Young.

 

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Victoria Park AAC Handbook 1962/3

This handbook was passed on by Colin D Young who was a noted sprinter and hurdler with Victoria Parl Glasgow University, Edinburgh University and the Atalanta Club.   The booklet is interesting mainly because of the detail involved , the definition of amateurism (which required a high degree of literacy to be understood) and the omission of anything to do with the ladies side of the sport – note the affiliations on the front cover.

The Top Milers and Top Chasers

Is Lawrie Spence (above) the best all round endurance runner the country has ever produced?  Look at the statistics below and reach your own conclusion.     But we should take things in order and we all know who we like – Dave McMeekin, Frank Clement, Hugh Barrow, John Robson, Graham Williamson, Graham Everett, etc.   Half milers are included here too because many of them were also 1500m runners and the milers had to run the half mile too.   So who were ranked?   There is a wee problem in that so many talented distance runners (a) need to run below distance and over distance on occasion; and (b) many enjoyed and performed really well at distances other than their perceived specialism.   We’ll come back to Lawrie in a moment but Ian Stewart, for instance, was a sub 4 miler as well as national and international medallist at 5000m.   Here is the order in which you viewed the pages.  NB: It is not a merit ranking.   It is the pages that have been read most.    Three are seen mainly as 800m specialists, one as a 5000m man and the rest were top class milers.

Men first

  1.   Tom McKean – 738
  2.   Frank Clement – 463
  3.   John Robson – 448
  4.   Graham Williamson – 343
  5.   Ian McCafferty – 320
  6.   Paul Forbes – 289
  7.   Hugh Barrow – 284
  8.   Peter Hoffmann – 279
  9.   Ian Stewart – 270
  10.   Alan Gordon – 240

Frank Clement, John Robson and Graham Williamson

It is difficult to see why Tom is so far ahead of the others in the event: he was certainly a very successful athlete indeed with medals at national, GB, international and Games levels and his career is marginally fresher in the minds of current generations but the trio above were so good at what they did – Frank’s victory in the Europa Cup at Meadownbank and his run in the Olympic final were outstanding, John Robson has so many top class times to his credit, Graham was one of Scotland’s best ever 1500/Mile specialists and also one of the most unlucky, not only in terms of injury but several times at the hands of Scottish or British selectors.   The two childhood friends who became world class 400/800 runners – Peter Hoffmann and Paul Forbes, both coached by the wonderful Bill Walker – are still high on the Scottish all-time ranking lists.   It is also gratifying to see Hugh Barrow up there – his pages on the website are all very interesting reads and there are several links from his profile page to other items of interest.   Many thought he would be the first Scot to break 4 minutes for the Mile, Graham Everett (whom I would have liked to see up here) was one of them.   The only Scot ever to hold a world record for the mile, Hugh held world age bests as a youth and Junior.   Alan Gordon is a very interesting character who has never really received the credit that was his due.  Please have a look at his profile – his running in and just after Bannister’s acclaimed four minute mile was of the very highest order.

Lawrie Spence was a sub four minute miler and a 2:16 marathon man with every distance between  of a similar standard.   He also captained the SCCU team in the world championships as successor in the role to Jim Alder.   All he needed to cement his position was a single outstanding performance in a Games or international championships.   One of our best ever in terms of times.   Click on his name at the top for the whole story.

Carol Sharp (61)

Women:

  1.   Carol Sharp – 340
  2.   Palm Gunstone – 320
  3.   Yvonne Murray – 236
  4.   Moira O’Boyle – 205
  5.   Lynne McDougall – 134
  6.   Rosemary Wright – 132
  7.   The McMeekin Twins – 124
  8.   Ann Purvis – 100
  9.   Margaret Coomber – 94
  10.   Molly Wilmoth – 91
  11.   Dale Greig – 90

This is possibly one of the most fascinating for me.   The list is led off by Carol Sharp who was a top class 800/1500m runner who ran for Scotland and for GB, mainly at 800m.   A popular athlete who is now a very good coach in her own right catering for some talented athletes.   By far the quickest highest rise of any newcomer was that of Palm Gunstone ,  ‘way up there in second place.   Palm won medals in the SWAAA Mile and cross country, ran internationally on track and cross-country before becoming a top class road runner. Her total was given a boost when her club posted a link to the profile but there were still numerous visits when it appeared.  It also includes the remarkable Lynne McDougall – Olympic 1500m finalist in Los Angeles and a 2:36 marathon runner.   All the distances between were national top ten ranking times for her.   Excellent athlete.   Christine and Evelyn McMeekin were two very good athletes indeed  with excellent times from 200m up to 1500m.   They had separate careers with Christine doing really well at 800/1500m and Evelyn at 400m/800m.   Unfortunately Evelyn’s career was cut short by injury but it’s clear that there is still a real interest in them.   Molly and Dale were followed in the ‘readings’ by Aileen Drummond – three women who dominated the sport through the 50’s and into the 60’s.

The Scottish cross-country team in Monza, 1974: Palm Gunstone on the left, Margaret Coomber next and Moira O’Boyle second left

As with the men there are several runners who were known for longer distances – Moira O’Boyle was the outstanding example of that.  Yvonne was very good at all distances from 800m up and will be dealt with in another page.   A Scottish internationalist as well as an Irish internationalist later in her career she was a top athlete over the country too.   The generation before that one is well represented by Molly and  Dale who are known throughout the UK with Dale being the first ever women’s world marathon record holder.    The two 800m runners – Rosemary Stirling and Ann Purvis – are well worth their place in the top ten and their careers are well known to the athletics supporters of the 21st century.   Margaret Coomber , who started out as Margaret McSherry, ran for most of her top class career in the United States and was one of Scotland’s best ever milers.

Longer Track Distances:  Women

  1.   Leslie Watson – 1,036
  2.   Liz McColgan – 398
  3.   Karen MacLeod – 257
  4.   Yvonne Murray – 236
  5.    Christine Price – 140
  6.    Karen Hutcheson – 184
  7.    Sandra Branney – 100
  8.    Judith Shepherd  – 80
  9.    = Hayley Haining – 74 , Penny Rother – 74
  10.     Susan Partridge – 59

Every one a Scottish international, at least six GB internationals, one an internationalist on track, road and cross-country who later opted to for the triathlon and distances from 1500m to marathon covered.   Click on the names for the full story – Olympians include Liz McColgan, Yvonne Murray and Karen Macleod,  The amazing career of triathlete Penny Rother  really needs to be read as does Sandra Branney’s tale of running at home and abroad.   Hayley Haining really should have had an Olympic vest – after she had ostensibly qualified, the selectors gave Paula Radcliffe who had been injured the choice of whether she went to the Games or not.   Who’s going to turn down Olympic selection?   And Hayley missed out.   Karen Hutcheson has been almost forgotten by Scotland – after starting with Jimmy Bryce’s Lochgelly, she moved to England and was a Scottish international with a great run in the Commonwealth Games 10000m.   Susan Partridge was a very good marathon runner who represented Scotland and GB and was of a very high standard.   Judith Shepherd was a Glasgow AC runner who went on a scholarship to the USA and developed from a very good standard athlete who excelled at 1500 and maybe especially at 3000m events.  

 

Nat Muir, SAAA 5000m, 1983

Men

  1.   Eddie Knox – 681
  2.   Lachie Stewart – 667
  3.   Jim Dingwall – 558
  4.   Jim Brown – 392
  5.   Ian McCafferty – 328
  6.   Allister Hutton – 306
  7.   Tommy Murray – 303
  8.    Nat Muir – 302
  9.    Ian Stewart – 270
  10.    Robert Quinn – 260

Another interesting collection of runners reflecting the interests of the site visitors.   As you would expect from 5000/10000m men they are all versatile with most running on track, road and over the country with at least two of them being hill running internationalists too.   Nat was unquestionably the country’s best cross-country runner for a considerable time; as a track runner he took on the best and often enough defeated them.   He was unfortunate in that he never won a medal at a major Games which would have sealed a wonderful career.     Eddie Knox and Jim Brown were both world cross-country champions as Junior Men and both were also very good track and cross-country runners indeed.   Lachie Stewart, Ian McCafferty, Ian Stewart and Allister Hutton were all Commonwealth Games runners and all represented GB .   Allister is probably best known for his London Marathon win in a very fast time, but he was also a track runner of note and competed in the 10000m at Edinburgh in 1986.   Jim Dingwall won the SAAA Marathon Championship in a record time but he had a top class career as a track runner (one of the class known as ‘Head Waiters) before taking to the roads).   Tommy Murray and Robert Quinn were great rivals on the track, on the road and over the country before they both ran in the World Hill Running Championships.   

Gordon Rimmer

Steeplechaser

  1.   Gordon Rimmer – 172
  2.    Tom O’Reilly – 151
  3.    Tom Hanlon – 134
  4.      Ian Gilmour – 133
  5.     Alistair Blamire – 126
  6.     Gareth Bryan Jones – 90
  7.     Graeme Croll – 80
  8.    =  Bill Ewing  54;   =  John Linaker  54
  9.     Bill Mullett – 30

There is quite a range there too – TP O’Reilly (Springburn) appeared on programmes for track meets, cross-country events, hill races and road races for decades.   Winner of the very first SAAA 3000m steeplechase championship Tommy was a credit for any team he ran for.  He was also the man who got Danny Wilmoth into the sport!    Tom Hanlon coached by Ebglishman Gordon Surtees was possibly the best ever steeplechaser and a regular in GB teams for a spell.   They were all very versatile and top men over a range of distances with RAF man Gordon Rimmer being most read. Graeme Croll was his team mate at Cambuslang after starting out with East Kilbride and was a very good domestic Scottish runner – with no advantages that were not enjoyed by any runner in the country, he was the top ‘chaser for a number of years.     Gareth Bryan Jones Alistair Blamire and Ian Gilmour were of the same generation and all widely respected – Bryan Jones went into orienteering after his running career was over and Alistair Blamire had been a member of the BMC and one of the Edinburgh University Hare and Hounds squad in the 1960’s.   His book ‘The Green Machine’ covers the period and should also be read.    

That’s the top ten steeplechase runners but note that an Irishman’s page has been visited more than any of them:  Peter McColgan – 340 visits.   

Lawrie Soence (78), Lachie Stewart (127) and Alistair Blamire

Your Top Ten Of the Year: August 2019 – Aug 2020

Several of the most popular athletes are here with Eddie Knox and Lachie Stewart on the extreme right.

The website has been running for several years now and the number of visits has increased year on year.  A kind of Oscars for the site – the DotScot Awards.  The biggest number of hits on a single day was over 700 but this year the highest number was almost exactly 600.   There have been 98,471 page views over the last 12 months, the highest monthly total was 5,549 in April 2019 and the top 10 categories were as follows:

  1.   Who’s Who of Distance Running – 2, 409
  2.   Marathon Stars – 1,392
  3.   Elite Endurance – 1,382
  4.   The Milers – 951
  5.   The Fast Pack – 702
  6.   A Hardy Race – 625
  7.   The Veterans – 582
  8.   The Chasers – 522
  9.   Marathons – 493
  10.   The Professionals – 451

These are the categories but we can look at them more closely.  Bear in mind however that the pages with most links on them will, or should have, most views.    eg Elite Endurance has many more names on the page than The Milers and that would probably cover the difference of less than 400.  Bearing that in mind, the relatively high position of The Chasers is perhaps a bit surprising.   Who’s Who is comparatively recent in appearance so it’s dominant position says something about what the readers want to see.  The most popular individual page for the Who’s Who was the letter C with 542 visits, followed by B (486), Mc Alinden to McParland (429) , VWY (390) and S (389).   The most popular Marathon Star was Leslie Watson with over 1,000 views with Donald Macgregor 400 behind (640) , Donald Ritchie (559) and Jim Dingwall on 557.   On the Elite Endurance page, it was Eddie Knox top on 684, followed by Lachie Stewart at 664 and Liz McColgan on 356.   Most popular miler in the overall rankings  was 800m runner (?) Tom McKean with 735 views.   Carol Sharp and Graham Williamson were second and third most popular over the year.

 

Lesley Watson wins the Luddon Strathkelvin Half Marathon.

Individuals:

  1.  Leslie Watson – 1,034
  2.   John Freebairn, Coach – 753  
  3.   Tom McKean –  735
  4.   Eddie Knox – 684
  5.   Lachie Stewart – 664
  6.   Donald Macgregor – 640
  7.   Stuart Hogg, Sprinter – 599
  8.   Donald Ritchie – 559
  9.   Jim Dingwall – 557
  10.   Mel Edwards – 535

Leslie Watson is by far the most visited of the individual profiles, almost 300 more views than John Freebairn and Tom McKean.   A good athlete as a teenager with SWAAA titles and international vests, she came into her own when the marathon boom started and she became probably the most prolific of the top class runners produced by Scotland at that time.   Like all the others, just click on her name above to go to the page and see just how good she actually was.

Number two among the individuals is an interesting.   John Freebairn was a very good athlete indeed as a youth but he was blacked as an amateur when he chose to play professional football because as a student he really needed the money.   After several years as a pro athlete he was re-instated as an amateur and became an international coach and veteran athlete.   A really outstanding athlete he would probably have competed for GB had it not been for the rupture between Pro and Amateur athletics.  His pages were all well visited with his next most popular page being  John Freebairn – In the Beginning which had 485 visits.  There were three other pages – As a Professional (107), As a Veteran (125) and As Others See him (201).

Stuart Hogg in seventh place was another who wanted as a boy to run in the Olympics but had to race as a pro because he lived in an area known as a hotbed of professional athletics and because he lived three bus journeys away from the nearest club.   It is kind of strange that three of the professional athletes that we profiled – and the three which were most viewed – had not wanted to be professional in the first place.   Be that as it may, Stuart’s other pages were visited as follows : As A Coach (243),  Career Achievements (127),  Athletes (159), Talking About Stuart (71) and To the Top (56), 

Tom McKean topping the Milers was a bit of a surprise, I think, because he was an 800 runner.  However wherever he was placed he was the subject of a lot of interest as a runner – and as a runner he was much better and more successful than many suspected.   Six of the top ten are no longer with us, having died in the past year Eddie Knox, Donald Macgregor, Don Ritchie, Jim Dingwall and Mel Edwards as well as John Freebairn.   All top class athletes, all highly respected and all really missed from the scene.  Lachie of course, El Lachie to our Spanish friends, is one of the most respected athletes of all time and we were all saddened to hear of his recent amputation of part of his left leg.   The good news is that he is progressing well and his recent video on BBC testified to that.

A non-Scot of interest is Bobbi Gibb, the first woman to run in the Boston Marathon.   When they were writing up Kathy Switzer as the first woman to run in the event, and the Press was almost vilifying Scot Jock Semple, it seemed about right to point out that it was Gibb not Switzer who was first – and was congratulated by Jock afterwards.   That particular post has been read hundreds of times and continues to be read several times each month.

 

John Freebairn

Having had a look at the various categories there was a vast range of events in which the athletes competed = road, country, track, hills, etc and the preferences seemed to go with what might be expected with three long distance road races in the top four.

Events:

  1.   Glasgow Marathon – 1,283
  2.   Two Bridges – 815
  3.   The Rangers Sports – 552
  4.   Aberdeen Marathon – 393
  5.   Dundee Marathon – 453
  6.   Edinburgh to Glasgow – 417

Just click on the link – the name of the event you want to see – above for the story of each event.   It is probably true to say, though, that the one which produces most correspondence is the Two Bridges Race although it is a close run thing with the Rangers Sports.  

Glasgow Marathon 1985

The next page to go up will be the top three in each category – the top three Milers (men and women separately), the top three Steeplechasers (men only – the website deals with the period 1945 to 1990 and there was no women’s steeplechase at that time), the top three marathon runners (men) and top three marathon runners (women).

 

 

The Moray Half Marathon

Graham Crawford

1986 Graham Crawford Springburn 1:06:09   1986 Jill Danskin London Oly 1:23:30    
1987 Graham Crawford Springburn 1:06:31   1987 Lyn Harding Houghton 1:18:41    
1988 Colin Youngson Aberdeen AAC 1:09:18   1988 Lyn Harding Houghton 1:14:58    
1989 Graham Laing Aberdeen AAC 1:08:55   1989 Margaret Mclaren   1:31:46    
1990 Bruce Moroney Metro 1:10:38   1990 Joyce Norgate Nairn 1:33:36    
1991 Bruce Chinnick Forres 1:07:59   1991 L. Davidson Moray 1:35:36    
1992 Bruce Moroney Metro 1:10:53   1992 Suzanna Bennett Metro 1:30:14    
1993 Rob Taylor Metro 1:10:06   1993 Erica Christie   1:29:45    
1994 Charlie Haskett Dundee HH 1:10:52   1994 Margaret Robertson Dundee RR 1:25:28    
1995 Fraser Clyne Metro 1:11:59   1995 Phyllis Mitchell Moray 1:34:00    
1996 Alan Reid Peterhead 1:09:16   1996 Phyllis Lemoncello   1:32:41    
1997 Mike Simpson AAAC 1:12:41   1997 Erica Christie   1:29:39    
1998 Keith Varney Metro 1:12:42   1998 Erica Christie   1:31:07    
1999 Keith Varney Metro 1:11:43   1999 Erica Christie   1:29:40    
2000 Eric Riddle   1:11:58   2000 Siobhan Evans Forres 1:29:27    
2001 Nick Milovsorov Metro 1:12:02   2001 Marie Duthie Fraserburgh 1:28:09    
2002 Mark Rigby Westerlands 1:12:07   2002 Mary Johnston   1:31:23    
2003 Simon Pride Metro 1:09:27   2003 Emma Fowler   1:27:23    
2004 Eric Riddle SPS 1:15:43   2004 Angela Hepburn AAAC 1:30:28    
2005 Graham Bee Fife 1:14:25   2005 Christine Milne Lothian 1:26:54    
2006 John Goodall Keith 1:15:35   2006 Sarah Leibnitz Inverness 1:33:58    
2007 Ben Hukins Aberdeen AAC 1:13:00   2007 Sarah Leibnitz Inverness 1:33:50    
2008 Ben Hukins Aberdeen AAC 1:12:35   2008 Helen Johnson Deeside 1:30:00    
2009 Niku Millott Metro 01:16:05   2009 Pam Tosh Aberdeen AAC 01:24:34    
2010 Niku Millott Metro 01:16:34   2010 Pam Tosh Aberdeen AAC 01:27:33    
2011 Paul Raistrick Inverness 01:15:09   2011 Carolyn Milne AAC 01:29:24    
2012 Adam Rouse (Edinburgh AC) 01:15:42   2012 Carolyn Milne AAC 01:29:47 Scot Champs
2013 Dermot Cummins (Corstorphine) 01:08:16   2013 Nicola Duncan (Portobello) 01:16:50    
                     
2014 Graham Bee Inverness 01:14:50   2014 Sarah Liebnitz Inverness 01:22:10 Glen Moray
2015 John Newsom Inverness 01:12:55   2015 Sarah Simpson   01:31:42    
  Gordon Lennox Inverness 1;13:08   2016 Louise Cartmell Moray 01:29:31